flemmings: (Default)
flemmings ([personal profile] flemmings) wrote2005-06-10 09:53 pm

The sense of place, plus rant

[livejournal.com profile] paleaswater said she found X resonant of Tokyo so I watched some X. And it /is/ Tokyo, pretty much, the generic Tokyo of pedestrian overpasses and schools and construction sites; but for me it lacks the distinct sense of place that the second Otogizoushi arc has. X is prettier than (the determinedly ugly) Otogizoushi, of course-- it's CLAMP-- but I find that a drawback. It rains in X but you don't feel the rain: it's just generic Tokyo rain. Whereas boy do you feel the heat and smell the unsavoury Ogikubo smells in Otogizoushi. I haven't seen that one right through, and as far as I did see it, it looked rather a mess narrative-wise; its unprettiness extends to the VAs who all manage the neat trick of making my skin crawl; but its version of Tokyo is the real thing. Ugly and in your face and take it or leave it. It's a world away from CLAMP's ethos.

CLAMP inspires in me the same instinctive loathing I felt for Los Angeles: 'this is the antithesis of everything I admire.' It (or they?) affects me like a cat in a thunderstorm. Those dewy CLAMP eyes, those pretty CLAMP features, those generic by-the-teenaged-numbers CLAMP characters, make me hiss and arch my back and gnash my terrible teeth and show my terrible claws.

This is a reaction of a good ten years' standing so it's not going away soon, even though I try series after series hoping to see what the attraction is. They drew good dragons for Tanaka's Sohryuuden-- which itself is a pretty undistinguished and pedestrian work. Other than that, they're just so banal it hurts. Nothing but a good shounen series is likely to take the taste of them from my mouth.

Unfortunately I tried Clive Barker's Imajica instead. This, in a heat wave, was a bad idea. Heat waves make everything feel nightmarish anyway without throwing Barker's imaginings into the mix. (I think he'd make me queasy even in the fall, so I conclude that life is too short to read Clive Barker.) Best to give up fic and manga entirely in summer, because the resonances are likely to be unpleasant. So if you want me I'll be over here in this Chinese grammar textbook. Descriptions of basic sentence structure have an innate sanity that defies any kind of weather.
ext_38010: (Default)

[identity profile] summer-queen.livejournal.com 2005-06-10 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I conclude that life is too short to read Clive Barker

Ack, no! Throw the CLAMP as far as you can, but give Barker a second chance. Imajica I can't speak for, but Weaveworld, or his children's books are worth it. Probably best tackled in the dead of winter, though....

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-06-11 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Or confining myself to the kids' books. Barker has this (IME quintessentially male author's) liking for killing lots of people- lots of anonymous people- and enjoying the description of the carnage, without much regard to the fact that even in a fictional world the entrails and heads etc his characters are stepping over so blithely were once people. If I'm not supposed to care much about the original owners of the entrails etc, why should I care about his characters? And I don't. I don't think they're as spesshul as Barker thinks they are.

(Besides, with all the world to live in, the man moved from *London* to *Los Angeles*, from one of the Quintessential Cities to the great Anti-city. His thinking must be forever beyond my understanding.)
(deleted comment)

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-06-11 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I came into Imajica half-way, with vol2, and promptly stumbled over a massacre and a character who 'had ordered massacres herself' but was a little non-plussed to find herself in the aftermath of one. Who was also looking for Christ. Thank you, no.

There probably should be a law against men writing about menstruation, but then there'd be one about women writing about hardons, and umm there goes my hobby.
(deleted comment)

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-06-11 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
(snerk) I know who hasn't read DH Lawrence. Don't, BTW. He's nauseating. But you want faux-mystical ambience to the hardon, he's your man.

Personally I'd kind of like to see menstruation playing a positive role in a book, but I don't want to see it done as a corrective to any stereotype this culture has come up with; which makes it a tall order.
(deleted comment)

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-06-11 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know how Tokyo stacks up against other Asian cities, but it has its own definite chaotic ugliness that's quite different from- well, let's be honest- NAmerican ugliness. There's little space and no zoning bylaws. As simple as that. From the Yamanote line every day I passed Japanese style houses with actual gardens and plants growing, right next to office buildings and apartments and love hotels. You can't call that sort of hodgepodge beautiful but it has an energy and an appeal that the dreary tackiness or deadly monotony of ugly American cities lacks. It's human.

It also looks better at certain seasons than at others. I think Tokyo in winter actually is beautiful, once you see it through Tokyo eyes. The rest of the time-- well, it looks a lot like CS Lewis' Charn.

[identity profile] kickinpants.livejournal.com 2005-06-12 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
My issue with Clamp is that I find a lot of their work...manipulative, even for a manga that's supposed to get you hoooked into their story so you keep reading. Their stories often seem very teasing and kind-of going nowhere. I guess Card Captor Sakura was the only one I thought was sort-of appealing, although I never read the manga and only caught part of the anime.

Barker's The Thief of Always isn't bad. I think that's the only one I've read of his work. It does feel like a winter read though...but perhaps it could be bring winterish coolness on a hot summer day.

[identity profile] flemmings.livejournal.com 2005-06-12 10:54 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read any CLAMP except RGVeda-- as far as I got which I think was vol6. It was the usual manga 'many things happening presumably going somewhere' but I never found out if it did go there or not. I've read a lot of complaining about the ennuis of whichever still-running series it is- X? TB?- that isn't going anywhere soon. (I can't keep TB and X straight in my mind.) CLAMP has always struck me as what happens when fangirls start doing manga- lots of enthusiasm at the outset, lots of prettiness, really short on things like plot and character.